why dose kurizk suck so bad? - Guild Wars Forums

SylentSlayer · Aug 09, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Well...first off im a very good pvper i do own glad title

today i got a lil bored of RA and decided to try and do some AB

first game was about
500 to 300 (luxon win)

next was about 250 to 500 (luxon win)

then i did about 6 more through out the day, EVERY one kurizk lost by at least 200.

Do luxon have like some special advantage or something? or are all my teammates just retarded? i really dont kno why i cant get a single win.

milan · Aug 09, 2007, 07:31 AM // 07:31

For the last couple of days the maps have been on the Luxon side, this gives them an advantage with placement of shrines etc.

Saying that I did 13 AB's last night and lost just one of them.

Buzzer · Aug 09, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by SylentSlayer

Do luxon have like some special advantage or something?

Sounds like they were fighting on home turf, which is easier.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/AB

Lorinda · Aug 09, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

It really depents on the map you are playing. If your playing Canyon yeah then its rather hard to win as a kurzick.
You cant win the homeland maps without at least 1 decent team.

Also kurzicks dont need to AB like the luxons do to keep a town. They can just FFF in ludgartis. Thats rather brainless work *no offence btw* and it goes really fast. (go see the differents in faction in House Zu Heltzer and Cavalon, normally HzH has 10 mil more)

Btw: glad title doesnt say any thing in AB. it does say you know what yoru doing, but AB is compleetly different.

I quess the only thing AB and TA have in commen that its a team sport. When you have a decent team that caps a lot, your more likely to win.

the_jos · Aug 09, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26

I could have started a similar thread a couple of days ago on Luxon side

Problem is that a lot of people don't get that this area requires some team tactics instead of brutal fighting.

Cebe · Aug 09, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

Also the Kurzicks mob...a LOT...and if you have a sensible Luxon team who know not to fight the mob, the Luxons win.

Yes I'm Luxon, Yes I'm Biased...Yes I know we probably mob just as much

Etta · Aug 09, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Yes I'm Luxon, Yes I'm Biased...

OMG! You're a turtle lover! I would never have guess, Celes! :P lol jk.
But seriously, next time we meet, I'm gonna have to kick you bum in AB.

Effendi Westland · Aug 09, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Also the Kurzicks mob...a LOT...and if you have a sensible Luxon team who know not to fight the mob, the Luxons win.

Yes I'm Luxon, Yes I'm Biased...Yes I know we probably mob just as much

Smart mobbing is key. Almost every time a side loses it's because they mob in the not so smart way, almost every time a side wins it's because they not actually trying to mob, but smart play results in many instances where the other side feels like they are being mobbed.

Lorinda · Aug 09, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland

Smart mobbing is key. Almost every time a side loses it's because they mob in the not so smart way, almost every time a side wins it's because they not actually trying to mob, but smart play results in many instances where the other side feels like they are being mobbed.

Mobbing is never smart. The one and only time you can mob is when you have 6 flags and only 1 smart team is capping on the other side. Then you can rush teh capping team. But you still need 1 team at the exit point of the base to hold them off.

Otherwise, if you dont cap fast and just mob you will lose.

the_jos · Aug 09, 2007, 11:20 AM // 11:20

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Mobbing is never smart.

First thing to remember is to play as team. And try to figure out what a good team would look like and try to get that together.
AB teams with random invites are less powerfull than well build teams.

Your team needs a leader that knows the battlefield and the rest follows blind. The leader should be able to determine what is the best shrine to cap, while avoiding other players as much as possible (both own and enemies).
Then the leader should be able to determine other (alliance) team strategies.
There are certain patterns that indicate how well a team is lead and what capturing tactic is used.
The leader can adjust his/her team tactic to the general tactic.
And this is where things as 'smart mobbing' step in, where teams create advantage by their position and movement on the playing field.
This requires at least two team leaders that know how to play the game and that adjust their playing style.
It is a very solid way to win on maps except perhaps the Lands and Canyon maps.

auch · Aug 09, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

when i play as kurzicck we always get like 500-100 dunno what u talking about

Tutis Evito · Aug 09, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

RA/TA and having a glads title means nothing in AB...completly differnet all park..it woul dbe like me who is expierinced Ab'er trying my hand at TA/RA and HoH ... im completly inexperinced

anshin · Aug 09, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

kurzicks are the best... that is why there are alot of kurzick...

you probably just had a very bad group...

there were times i won 10 or more consecutive wins and there were times i simply couldn't win... keep on trying

yesitsrob · Aug 09, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Well...first off im a very good pvper i do own glad title

You must be.

On a serious note, from my experience in AB - both teams are generally as utter trash as each other.

vergerefosh · Aug 09, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

all depends on map. Canyon luxon tends to win, Ancestral Kurzick tends to win. Other maps can go either way

Phantom Gun · Aug 10, 2007, 04:08 AM // 04:08

Ok i'm starting to get tired of this whole kurzick and luxon thing. It doesn't matter! Kurzick and Luxon is nothing more then a name, what thier areas look like, and armor differences.

What faction you are has nothing to do with your skill. It's obvious players switch sides all of the time. Some switch for the winning team, others switch just to be on the other side, or for a new objective as far as FA, and JQ go. Some people switch guilds and pretty much have to switch to gain the faction to donate.

As far as AB is goes, I really don't consider that real pvp. I mean what, you run around and kill NPC's to cap a shrine. Remember kids cap cap cap and avoid mobs!!! What's the fun in that? Yeah you still got to kill a few players that get in your way, but I wouldn't go so far as to judge player skill from thier current disposition.

Anyway the luxons have thier days, and the kurzicks have them as well. Other times it goes back and forth. I think you just had a bad experience. But if you honestly believe that the name you fight for counts for anything then by all means go luxon.

Kamatsu · Aug 10, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42

As stated - either side can and does have bad teams, good teams.. and it really depends on which side has "advantage" based on team composition as well as maps played. I'm closing this thread due to the fact that it is asking for pure opinion's that have little or no basis on fact, and will draw flames & trolls.

Thread Closed.

Aug 09, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28	#1
SylentSlayer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: The Dark Inferno[DARK] Profession: P/W	why dose kurizk suck so bad? Well...first off im a very good pvper i do own glad title today i got a lil bored of RA and decided to try and do some AB first game was about 500 to 300 (luxon win) next was about 250 to 500 (luxon win) then i did about 6 more through out the day, EVERY one kurizk lost by at least 200. Do luxon have like some special advantage or something? or are all my teammates just retarded? i really dont kno why i cant get a single win.

Aug 10, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42	#17
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	As stated - either side can and does have bad teams, good teams.. and it really depends on which side has "advantage" based on team composition as well as maps played. I'm closing this thread due to the fact that it is asking for pure opinion's that have little or no basis on fact, and will draw flames & trolls. Thread Closed. __________________ Have a moderation related issue or just want to chat? Send me a PM

Aug 09, 2007, 07:31 AM // 07:31	#2
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	For the last couple of days the maps have been on the Luxon side, this gives them an advantage with placement of shrines etc. Saying that I did 13 AB's last night and lost just one of them.

Aug 09, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#4
Lorinda Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands	It really depents on the map you are playing. If your playing Canyon yeah then its rather hard to win as a kurzick. You cant win the homeland maps without at least 1 decent team. Also kurzicks dont need to AB like the luxons do to keep a town. They can just FFF in ludgartis. Thats rather brainless work no offence btw and it goes really fast. (go see the differents in faction in House Zu Heltzer and Cavalon, normally HzH has 10 mil more) Btw: glad title doesnt say any thing in AB. it does say you know what yoru doing, but AB is compleetly different. I quess the only thing AB and TA have in commen that its a team sport. When you have a decent team that caps a lot, your more likely to win.

Aug 09, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26	#5
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	I could have started a similar thread a couple of days ago on Luxon side Problem is that a lot of people don't get that this area requires some team tactics instead of brutal fighting.

Aug 09, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32	#6
Cebe The 5th Celestial Boss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inverness, Scotland Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO] Profession: E/	Also the Kurzicks mob...a LOT...and if you have a sensible Luxon team who know not to fight the mob, the Luxons win. Yes I'm Luxon, Yes I'm Biased...Yes I know we probably mob just as much

Aug 09, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#11
auch Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: My Chair Profession: P/W	when i play as kurzicck we always get like 500-100 dunno what u talking about

Aug 09, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#12
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	RA/TA and having a glads title means nothing in AB...completly differnet all park..it woul dbe like me who is expierinced Ab'er trying my hand at TA/RA and HoH ... im completly inexperinced

Aug 09, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#13
anshin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: R/	kurzicks are the best... that is why there are alot of kurzick... you probably just had a very bad group... there were times i won 10 or more consecutive wins and there were times i simply couldn't win... keep on trying

Aug 09, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#15
vergerefosh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea] Profession: W/R	all depends on map. Canyon luxon tends to win, Ancestral Kurzick tends to win. Other maps can go either way

Aug 10, 2007, 04:08 AM // 04:08	#16
Phantom Gun Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minion Bombing in Elona Guild: The Drunken Dragons [DRNK] Profession: Rt/N	Ok i'm starting to get tired of this whole kurzick and luxon thing. It doesn't matter! Kurzick and Luxon is nothing more then a name, what thier areas look like, and armor differences. What faction you are has nothing to do with your skill. It's obvious players switch sides all of the time. Some switch for the winning team, others switch just to be on the other side, or for a new objective as far as FA, and JQ go. Some people switch guilds and pretty much have to switch to gain the faction to donate. As far as AB is goes, I really don't consider that real pvp. I mean what, you run around and kill NPC's to cap a shrine. Remember kids cap cap cap and avoid mobs!!! What's the fun in that? Yeah you still got to kill a few players that get in your way, but I wouldn't go so far as to judge player skill from thier current disposition. Anyway the luxons have thier days, and the kurzicks have them as well. Other times it goes back and forth. I think you just had a bad experience. But if you honestly believe that the name you fight for counts for anything then by all means go luxon.